“I can’t tell you a lot of what I know. I want the viewers to be able to sleep tonight,” says Jenny Havemann. She is a German-Israeli blogger and has lived in Tel Aviv with her family since 2010. Previously, Havemann told Anne Will the story of a three-year-old girl who was found by a neighbor in her house on the day of the Hamas massacre and who he took home with him. When the child says that his two siblings were still hiding in the house, the man goes back to get them too. When he returns with the other children, he finds his own house empty. Hamas kidnapped the three-year-old and his family. “We hear stories like this every day,” says Havemann.
10,000 victims within two weeks – “a very high number”
One month after the terrorist attack on Israel, there is no end to the war in sight. The Israeli army has now penetrated deep into the northern Gaza Strip. At the same time, there are still more than 200 hostages in the hands of Hamas and many Palestinian civilians are dying in the Gaza Strip. International support for the Israelis appears to be crumbling. “Israel has the right and the duty to defend itself and to cause as much pain to Hamas as possible,” counters former Swedish Prime Minister Carl Bildt. “The conditions must be created so that there are no further wars.” However, there is a figure of 10,000 victims within two weeks. “That is a very high number for a comparable dispute that I have not experienced before.” This will also make a later solution – such as the two-state solution – more difficult.
According to aid organizations, a child dies every ten minutes
“The situation in Gaza is dramatic. According to aid organizations, a child dies every ten minutes,” explains the federal chairman of the Green Party, Omid Nouripour. Responsibility for this lies with Hamas, said Nouripour. They didn’t let the children into the tunnel, but sent them to school. Hamas would also go door to door and confiscate gasoline for its military vehicles as well as the gasoline that was actually intended for hospital generators. “In the government coalition it is clear that we stand with Israel.” The federal chairman also points out that Hamas is abusing the victims for propaganda purposes. They have their positions on hospitals and mosques. If a bomb then falls on the mosque, it is said that “the Israelis want to fight Islam.”
“A ceasefire will undoubtedly help Hamas”
Due to the high number of victims, many states are calling for a longer ceasefire in the Middle East conflict in order to give civilians the opportunity to receive supplies and, if necessary, to flee. From the perspective of Middle East and terrorism researcher Guido Steinberg, this is not a good military option for Israel. “A ceasefire will undoubtedly help Hamas. The Israelis must keep up the pressure. There is no alternative.” 1,400 people were killed in “pure terror”. In view of this, every state must “consider how to destroy the organization that is responsible for this”. At the same time, the Israelis are running out of time. The USA, for example, pushed for military actions to be limited. There will be elections soon and the Democrats will have to capture their left wing.
“I believe that there is something good in every person”
Before the broadcast, Anne Will had a conversation with Holocaust survivor Margot Friedländer. “I wish that this hatred didn’t exist,” says the contemporary witness, whose family was murdered by the Nazis. “We are all human. Let’s live! I believe that there is something good in every person.” Regarding the apparently resurgence of anti-Semitism around the world, the 102-year-old explains: “I wouldn’t have expected something like this to happen again. But anti-Semitism has always existed and always will exist. It’s stuck in people.” Comedian Abdul Chahin is Palestinian and lives in Germany. He has listened carefully to Margot Friedländer and nods eagerly. “Tolerance for extreme voices has now increased significantly,” he criticizes. “But you can easily overcome that if you create an encounter. In theory, living together can be so easy.” Politician Nouripour wants to say something more, but Anne Will cuts him off. “I would like to end the program with the sentence: It could be so simple.”